Podcast notes – Punk 6529 on Bankless: “NFTs are generic carriers for intangible assets…intangibles are $70 TRILLION”

Why pseudonymous identity
Very intrigued by NFTs in late 2020s
Initially thought it was cute games for kids
Saw Gmoney, Punk4156 – inspired by idea

Idea behind bitcoin – provable ownership

“If you’re not sure, you should just try it”
With tech, you can’t just read about it, you gotta use it

Now he checks in and out of 2 different ecosystems – Facebook is his pre-existing / real identity life
Twitter is his NFT and crypto community – noticed it’s as easy, if not easier, to cooperate and collaborate here, didn’t expect this at first

Fact that NFTs are always visible in wallets – security flaw, but solvable (especially expensive ones, eg, Fidenza)

On bulletin boards 20 years ago — didn’t know ID of those people, just had pseudonymous handles
“It’s not weird at all — you’re all gonna do it”
People present differently online, on LinkedIn v IG v Facebook

The NFT makes the pseudonymous ID provable

RSA: “Don’t trust anyone in crypto who hasn’t used Uniswap”

“No constitutional rights without freedom to transact”

There’s a progressive erosion of freedom

One is tech intermediated —
NYC yellow cabs, pay cash, no one can stop you from using them – decentralized physical activity
Now, Uber can stop you any time for any reason

Two is post 911 AML/KYC
Cash now viewed with suspicion
Impossible to launch “cash” as a product today

End state of all this is a few large databases that intermediate everything — it’s a chokepoint, a honeypot
No thinking about second order effects
Some very ambitious politicians will take control, shut down and control large numbers of people, including their opponents
All of this runs outside of due process
Starts with good intentions, but grows and grows
Network effects which become chokepoints

Crypto’s own permissionless architecture becomes an important counterweight – Bitcoin has no CEO

RSA: there will be 2 types of money — controlled money and free money

NFTs are our best shot at achieving decentralization — that’s why he started 6529

Most of his friends are completely clueless — lots of them think he’s lost his mind about NFTs and crypto
Caught in a MLM scheme or Ponzi

What’s funnier — lots of BTC people can’t get into ETH or vice-versa, or NFTs and DeFi — “have you looked at yourself in the mirror?”

“Hardened veteran of being yelled at”

A lot of super technical crypto lovers shit on NFTs, “kid stuff”

Because crypto was too obsessed with the technology, it was clear it was pre-product market fit
NFTs changed that

You don’t buy a CryptoPunk because it’s on Ethereum

When you talk about applications instead of the tech, you’re at the beginning of consumerization
eg, Dolce Gabbana at an NFT conference!

NFTs = generic carriers for intangible assets

Many things you can do with NFTs that you can’t do with crypto, eg, personal IDs
Big companies are using NFTs, but not bitcoin / ethereum

NFTs are infinitely expressive

Metaverse is just the internet, it’s not gonna be one website
Right now you’re 2 inches tall on my laptop, but in the future you’ll be full size – visualization will improve
You’ll need persistent digital objects — NFTs!

You can survive without Twitter, but not really without email
Politicians can’t ban email — it’s a protocol
Architecture of web 1 was open, inter-operable, came out of academia (eg, email, websites)
Architecture of web 2 came out of Silicon Valley, should have been protocols but was captured by large companies

Metaverse will be your all encompassing ambient digital environment

We have moment in time, next 2-3 years – while others think this tech is a joke – we have opportunity to win a technology shift
Twitter was thought as a joke, a curiosity – 11 years later, huge debate about how POTUS uses it

BTC won’t displace state money – state has tremendously powerful tools
ETH won’t be global computing platform – it’s AWS

You can make NFTs as first amendment protected speech – there will be a Supreme Court case on first amendment grounds

NFTs are
—first mainstream crypto consumer app
—possible to get large companies using and integrating
—less threatening to the state

Intangibles on corporate balance sheets are $70T dollars – far more than gold – and many more intangibles that aren’t on balance sheets at all

NFTs can carry any arbitrary intangible on the internet

“Yes We Can” and “Make America Great” are examples of intangibles that bind humans – memes – intersubjective realities and myths

It’s the underlying fabric of society – and now we can make it composable on the internet

Podcast notes – Secrets of NFT trading – DeezeFi and Jason Choi on Blockcrunch

Guest: DeezeFi “Deeze”
Host: Jason Choi

2017, playing fantasy sports, saw friends making money on crypto / eth
2018, lost all that money in shitcoins

Spent next 2 years dollar cost averaging into ETH and crypto, learning, trading

Defi summer – spent all day in Telegram for alpha

Lightbulb moment – flipped a floor punk, NFTs are like trading rare items in MMOs (WoW, Runescape) – had done a lot of that before, gave up on trading tokens (coins), and went full time on NFTs

owns 1500-2K NFTs, probably 300 “nice art” (1/1s)

initially bothered by lack of privacy, but now it’s a huge asset to easily show credibility / past performance / DAOs

hard to get accurate degenscore because he splits activity across wallets

Biggest win?
Holds a hoodie 3D glasses pipe cryptopunk
Realized wins: Squiggles (minted 50+ for under $100 each, sold $30K+), Fidenza (69eth to 290+ flip)

He flipped punks more for market making, higher volume and lower spreads

Biggest loss was buying Punk for 142eth and sold for 88eth

Spray and pray approach, similar to VC bets

Most important is team – Are they doxxed? Can he chat with them?

Hosts Twitter Spaces with interesting projects, brings other trusted investors / collectors to also ask questions, good way to vet team and project

Galactic Game NFT (?) – psychedelic PFP project
each one looks like a piece of art
artist was doxxed, prior track record

So much of NFT prices is memetic desire / human psychology
Only thinking “can I sell this to someone else for more money?”

Nansen holders breakdown is useful
See which whales have big positions
Some whales have paper hands – warning sign if they own large % of a collection

Bet on Azuki – good community, good team, NFT ownership was distributed

Crypto OGs generally buy what they like
New whales / institutions generally buy what’s popular / memetic

Early 2021 – Top Shot went insane – sparked lot of NFT degeneracy
Big issue is over-supply (also Art Blocks)

Still holds some Art Blocks – praying new institutional money will come in to bid

Which ones does he value most?
-his 2 forever Punks
-Squiggles – genesis Art Blocks project, by SnowFro
CloneX – bet on the RTFKT team, just hodled for 100+ eth gains
-Azuki

negative on Pixel Vault, but early hodlers did very well (5+ eth)

Punks – limited supply, one of first, OG community, betting on lindy effect
not as bullish on Apes, doesn’t know how to value $APE coin

wary of hype
constantly “tries to sell hype”

always need 3 (of an NFT collection) so you don’t feel bad when you sell one

hired early to Fractional (fractionalizing NFTs) – thought their model was more sensible than NFTX
unlocks upside for large NFT owners, protects downside for smaller NFT buyers

photography NFTs
collected Twin Flames early – creator Justin Aversano was also doing stuff in Punks community
met other photographers, featured them in Twitter Spaces
sold a Twin Flames for 100+ eth

every 1/1 NFT – he immediately assumes it’ll go to zero (price)
allows him to hold for a long time, for a (potential) big win

in NFT space, you wanna bet on artists who are extraverts – someone who keeps sharing their narrative online
Justin (Aversano) was borderline annoying in how persistent he was in meeting his collectors and getting his work out there

Apes – very big grassroots movement – how they launched dogs to reward hodlers + gain momentum, then mutants, etc

Need 1 or 2 influencers to get ball rolling (for projects)
Ideally your project has “tinder”, the influencers add the fire

Advice to NFT investors
-be active on Twitter – add value and make friends
-survive the swings, steadily add capital
-be ok with losing – but you need to learn from your losses