Podcast notes – Punk 6529 on Bankless: “NFTs are generic carriers for intangible assets…intangibles are $70 TRILLION”

Why pseudonymous identity
Very intrigued by NFTs in late 2020s
Initially thought it was cute games for kids
Saw Gmoney, Punk4156 – inspired by idea

Idea behind bitcoin – provable ownership

“If you’re not sure, you should just try it”
With tech, you can’t just read about it, you gotta use it

Now he checks in and out of 2 different ecosystems – Facebook is his pre-existing / real identity life
Twitter is his NFT and crypto community – noticed it’s as easy, if not easier, to cooperate and collaborate here, didn’t expect this at first

Fact that NFTs are always visible in wallets – security flaw, but solvable (especially expensive ones, eg, Fidenza)

On bulletin boards 20 years ago — didn’t know ID of those people, just had pseudonymous handles
“It’s not weird at all — you’re all gonna do it”
People present differently online, on LinkedIn v IG v Facebook

The NFT makes the pseudonymous ID provable

RSA: “Don’t trust anyone in crypto who hasn’t used Uniswap”

“No constitutional rights without freedom to transact”

There’s a progressive erosion of freedom

One is tech intermediated —
NYC yellow cabs, pay cash, no one can stop you from using them – decentralized physical activity
Now, Uber can stop you any time for any reason

Two is post 911 AML/KYC
Cash now viewed with suspicion
Impossible to launch “cash” as a product today

End state of all this is a few large databases that intermediate everything — it’s a chokepoint, a honeypot
No thinking about second order effects
Some very ambitious politicians will take control, shut down and control large numbers of people, including their opponents
All of this runs outside of due process
Starts with good intentions, but grows and grows
Network effects which become chokepoints

Crypto’s own permissionless architecture becomes an important counterweight – Bitcoin has no CEO

RSA: there will be 2 types of money — controlled money and free money

NFTs are our best shot at achieving decentralization — that’s why he started 6529

Most of his friends are completely clueless — lots of them think he’s lost his mind about NFTs and crypto
Caught in a MLM scheme or Ponzi

What’s funnier — lots of BTC people can’t get into ETH or vice-versa, or NFTs and DeFi — “have you looked at yourself in the mirror?”

“Hardened veteran of being yelled at”

A lot of super technical crypto lovers shit on NFTs, “kid stuff”

Because crypto was too obsessed with the technology, it was clear it was pre-product market fit
NFTs changed that

You don’t buy a CryptoPunk because it’s on Ethereum

When you talk about applications instead of the tech, you’re at the beginning of consumerization
eg, Dolce Gabbana at an NFT conference!

NFTs = generic carriers for intangible assets

Many things you can do with NFTs that you can’t do with crypto, eg, personal IDs
Big companies are using NFTs, but not bitcoin / ethereum

NFTs are infinitely expressive

Metaverse is just the internet, it’s not gonna be one website
Right now you’re 2 inches tall on my laptop, but in the future you’ll be full size – visualization will improve
You’ll need persistent digital objects — NFTs!

You can survive without Twitter, but not really without email
Politicians can’t ban email — it’s a protocol
Architecture of web 1 was open, inter-operable, came out of academia (eg, email, websites)
Architecture of web 2 came out of Silicon Valley, should have been protocols but was captured by large companies

Metaverse will be your all encompassing ambient digital environment

We have moment in time, next 2-3 years – while others think this tech is a joke – we have opportunity to win a technology shift
Twitter was thought as a joke, a curiosity – 11 years later, huge debate about how POTUS uses it

BTC won’t displace state money – state has tremendously powerful tools
ETH won’t be global computing platform – it’s AWS

You can make NFTs as first amendment protected speech – there will be a Supreme Court case on first amendment grounds

NFTs are
—first mainstream crypto consumer app
—possible to get large companies using and integrating
—less threatening to the state

Intangibles on corporate balance sheets are $70T dollars – far more than gold – and many more intangibles that aren’t on balance sheets at all

NFTs can carry any arbitrary intangible on the internet

“Yes We Can” and “Make America Great” are examples of intangibles that bind humans – memes – intersubjective realities and myths

It’s the underlying fabric of society – and now we can make it composable on the internet

Podcast notes – Overpriced JPEGs – guest Tim Ferriss: “Assume there’s always a market for quality in any medium — and just get fucking great”

Guest: Tim Ferriss
Host: Carly Reilly (w/ Bankless)

“The way you do anything is how you do everything”

Experimented with NFTs for last 2 years

Describes himself as writer or podcaster to unfamiliar people

Very competitive person – wants to suffer a little

Cockpunch – origin story
-Started w/ desire to be less precious about creative projects, looking for joy and fun and laughter
Likes playing with new technology sandboxes
-Was drawing characters with gauntlets – the name Cockpunch popped into his mind
-Lets him play with 3d modeling, rigging, voice acting, music – lets him acquire skills that can be transferred to other places – vehicle for learning

AI art competition
-entrants had to show their work
-based on Cockpunch characters
-teaching himself – and then teach others

Chose fiction to let himself focus less on metrics, a “quantitative prison”

“Most people who want feedback…want positive reinforcement”

In any new space, tries to find someone with 10K foot view across many projects to get advice

Lots of folks get lost in weeds with NFTs / web3

Decided on 5555 mints – wanted to make sure it sells out

“There are a lot of whiny bitches in web3”

Likes advice of Scott Adams (Dilbert creator)
Thinks in terms of 6 month projects and 2 week experiments
Snowball of relationships and skills from project to project

Created term “Emergent Long Fiction”
Fiction lets him learn from new people
Set a few conditions upfront – a few characters, realms, drivers
There’s competitive games
But where it goes from here – he doesn’t necessarily know (hence “emergent”)

Set constraints and explore how creative you can be

Most people don’t know what they want

Hard to get clear signal when you ask a large audience what they want

Bullish on tokenized assets and digital scarcity

Been thru many cycles of tech
Always some new tool / platform that people say you have to use (eg, Vine)
“Assume there’s always a market for quality in any medium — and just get fucking great

Web3 isn’t going away
But NFTs – he doesn’t know – it’s one of the meanest most aggressive communities

In this bear market, he’s down 70% net worth – but it doesn’t entitle him to behave like an asshole

Public perception of NFTs (in his audience) has soured tremendously – like a dirty word
But he likes to cull his audience from time to time if they don’t have patience or understanding

Cockpunch as an unlock has exceeded all his expectations – relationships, what he’s learning

Fiction doesn’t always mean a novel – it means story telling
Didn’t plan to do a Discord – it self-organized
In Discord – use your Cockpunch NFTs, with attributes – uses ChatGPT to write a match summary (blow by blow) of a cock fight
Others added music, voice commentary

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Podcast notes: NFT news with Overpriced Jpegs and guest Supermassive

guest SuperMassive – head of video at Defiant, covers crypto / web3
20 years as filmmaker

Glut of NFT stuff today, compared to when Bored Apes launched

Macro is deeply uncertain right now

NFT volume has dropped, but top projects haven’t fallen much – Mutants, Karafuru

Carly likes using Dappradar to track projects
SM uses Watchtower (paid app)

Some trends
Emergence of manga / anime style (Azuki)
Evolution of what’s considered “blue chip” (Artifact)

Vtubing trend – using avatar that tracks your movements in eg, Zoom calls
Opportunity to translate NFT into vtube scaffold
Can still emote / behave as yourself in metaverse but look like character

Recent explosion in Asian art / themes – CloneX (Murakami), Karafuru (comes from Indonesia), Azuki (anime style art)

Damien Hirst’s Dots – blue chip moment – price has dropped

7yo son and 9yo daughter, get their feedback on which NFTs – they liked Azukis

MFers – Bankless likes them, growing interest in NFTs

8000eth Punk sale – Deepak.eth bought it (CEO of Chain)
Has spent $31M on mutants, serums, and this punk
Also bought the M3 serum (!)
Took Compound loan to pay for it
Self promotional

We will label people as ape owners but not Tesla owners – that’s bizarre and interesting

NFTs have more tangible ownership value than shitcoins – and harder to sell so more hodling
NFT space is making up its own rules now

X2Y2 airdrop – wasn’t that valuable, had early issues so paused airdrop
LooksRare volume dropping, lot of it was wash trading, falling rewards

We’re all waiting for Coinbase NFT marketplace

Also NYSE doing an NFT marketplace too – what will it look like?

New stat that # of US people who hold crypto > # of US people who have a savings account (!?)

Will be an international arms race for stablecoins, crypto products

Carly works with Andrew Yang on his new Lobby3 initiative – anti-poverty benefits of crypto and web3
“if you’re not at the table, you’re on the menu”

Disney hired tech exec Mike White to lead metaverse strategy – taking it seriously
More confident Disney can do it than Facebook

Lens Protocol to build social apps
Possible future where writing good comments = NFT = can become collateral for buying a house

Lots of citizen policing in this space – community sorts it out – but media always prefers talking about the rugs

SM’s two exciting projects – Cyberbrokers (respected artist) and Aku collection (former MLB player)